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    Quote Originally Posted by Paperback Writer View Post
    GUYS, GUYS... WHAT IF, OSCAR PULLS A GAME OF THRONES AND JUST KILLS EVERYONE OFF.
    That's impossible, there are no sex scenes in Castle... unless the whole series is a reference to the hell sperm must go through in order to reach the egg.

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    TheOnlyHorse's works were just... FAN FICTION?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paperback Writer View Post
    TheOnlyHorse's works were just... FAN FICTION?
    What? No of course not it's all official!



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    Oh, look! A thread! Can I post here?

    Prologue quote: "Many of the warring ancient factions, slowly discovered a psychic force springing up within many of their army's units; The power to read minds and manipulate the brain."

    Ok ok ok, so keeping this quote in mind, let's go back to the corridor Ray was trapped in, when he saw the visage of Lloyd bloodied and scarred. None of the other Evils, not even the Wise One was EVER mentioned to have the ability to move through time/space, except for the Mind Worm, so most likely that Lloyd was a vision created by the Mind Worm in Ray's mind. Even when he tripped and fell through the hole in the wall, the vision kinda flickered and disappeared, probably because the Mind Worm lost grip of it.
    This is going to sound crazy... But what IF one the survivors on their way back to base is NOT who they say they are? What if they're a vision created by the Mind Worm in an attempt to get to Earth?

    Ok, so maybe it's not the best theory. But is it just me who sees it possible that the Mind Worm could trick the others into believing he is Lloyd/Etrius in future episodes?
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    Going with your theory, I guess the only two possible candidates for being Mind Wormed are Ray and Mullins, but my money is on Mullins since he actually had it in his head for a short time. Would be an interesting development.
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    And it turns out Castle was just a dream.

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    The General wakes up in a cold sweat, but it was just a dream. He decides not to let it get him down. After all, today is his big day.

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    Directed by M. Night Shyamalamadingdong
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoxArcana View Post
    Oh, look! A thread! Can I post here?

    Prologue quote: "Many of the warring ancient factions, slowly discovered a psychic force springing up within many of their army's units; The power to read minds and manipulate the brain."

    Ok ok ok, so keeping this quote in mind, let's go back to the corridor Ray was trapped in, when he saw the visage of Lloyd bloodied and scarred. None of the other Evils, not even the Wise One was EVER mentioned to have the ability to move through time/space, except for the Mind Worm, so most likely that Lloyd was a vision created by the Mind Worm in Ray's mind. Even when he tripped and fell through the hole in the wall, the vision kinda flickered and disappeared, probably because the Mind Worm lost grip of it.
    This is going to sound crazy... But what IF one the survivors on their way back to base is NOT who they say they are? What if they're a vision created by the Mind Worm in an attempt to get to Earth?

    Ok, so maybe it's not the best theory. But is it just me who sees it possible that the Mind Worm could trick the others into believing he is Lloyd/Etrius in future episodes?

    I like your idea. This Mindworm seems to utilise a kind of psychological warfare to pass from person to person. Could it be that its objective is to pass from the survivors until it finally reaches the General?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernSkies View Post
    I like your idea. This Mindworm seems to utilise a kind of psychological warfare to pass from person to person. Could it be that its objective is to pass from the survivors until it finally reaches the General?
    Can't see a reason why it would go after The General other than to bitch slap him for taking the power. (And even then, Etrius took the power.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernSkies View Post
    I like your idea. This Mindworm seems to utilise a kind of psychological warfare to pass from person to person. Could it be that its objective is to pass from the survivors until it finally reaches the General?
    The General seems to be "brainwashed" by someone (according to Etrius speech on the Altar). The General wants the powers to end the resource war on earth so if the mindworm makes its way to his mind I'd say it has one heck of an advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecfor View Post
    The General seems to be "brainwashed" by someone (according to Etrius speech on the Altar). The General wants the powers to end the resource war on earth so if the mindworm makes its way to his mind I'd say it has one heck of an advantage.
    Since it's going after power, it'd probably be after the Superior too.

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    Not exactly a theory, but I did have a dream that when I touched the black orb, it turned into a liquid texture and spread up my arm and turned into the Wise One's armor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoxArcana View Post
    Oh, look! A thread! Can I post here?

    Prologue quote: "Many of the warring ancient factions, slowly discovered a psychic force springing up within many of their army's units; The power to read minds and manipulate the brain."

    Ok ok ok, so keeping this quote in mind, let's go back to the corridor Ray was trapped in, when he saw the visage of Lloyd bloodied and scarred. None of the other Evils, not even the Wise One was EVER mentioned to have the ability to move through time/space, except for the Mind Worm, so most likely that Lloyd was a vision created by the Mind Worm in Ray's mind. Even when he tripped and fell through the hole in the wall, the vision kinda flickered and disappeared, probably because the Mind Worm lost grip of it.
    This is going to sound crazy... But what IF one the survivors on their way back to base is NOT who they say they are? What if they're a vision created by the Mind Worm in an attempt to get to Earth?

    Ok, so maybe it's not the best theory. But is it just me who sees it possible that the Mind Worm could trick the others into believing he is Lloyd/Etrius in future episodes?
    The vision theory would really explain why dead Lloyd just disappeared rather than falling to the ground dead. This theory shines a whole new light on Lloyds status, as well as the way the Mindworm works.
    So. I assume most "???" conversation in the series was the Mindworm talking, but this voice also appears to be waking up the droners in their resting room. Which means 2 ways of communication:
    - as a loud voice heard by everybody, for which to cause he needs to have a physical form or needs to be in possession of a body with a voice loud enough for it to be heard throughout the entire castle, or at least a very large room.
    - directly into people's minds by invading their psyche, which probably includes them moving into them entirely
    "felt something was crawling under my skin and started hearing some freaky voices in mi head"...

    I think I would support the theory that the mindworm invaded Ray by kind of fusing into him, and caused the vision of Lloyd. The only question is "why?". Did he want to make Ray believe Lloyd was dead? Did he want to cause Lloyd to get a heart attack by putting him in an intense simulated situation? Or was he simply trying to piss off Ray after he ran off when the Mindworm told him to "now take me to your world human"?

    Also did you notice the Mindworm did not make any appearance before Etrius touched the Orb? The power to read minds and manipulate the brain was one of the main "features" of the ancients. Something tells me that what was inside the Orb was not an ancient power in the shape of an energy that can be used to create stuff, I think that was the Mindworm... or, not actually a seperate creature, the mind of the wise one or his power or something. I mean based on how advanced that culture mustve been in terms of building stuff and manipulating energy and mass, its quite possible that some sort of spirit was locked away into the Orb for ages and eventually turned insane.

    As for Lloyd, seeing as the appearance of dead Lloyd would be counted as a vision by these new theories, his actual status would no longer be "considered dead", but just M.I.A.. Even if he was just alone on the other side of that ravine with tons of evils behind him, he still may or may not have slaughtered them off the way Etrius did in Castle 2. We dont know.

    So yeah, what do you think about these new theories?
    - Dead Lloyd was just a vision
    - The Mindworm is the wise one's spirit or something
    - Etrius freed the Mindworm the moment he touched the Orb
    - The Mindworm switches from body to body until it eventually reaches the Earth dimension
    - The Mindworm did not leave the castle with that last chopper. All on board except for Plisskin were fighting off the evils and flying demons during the last scene, none of them betrayed the others at what would've been the perfect moment, none of them behaved different than we saw them before.
    - Etrius and Lloyd and the missing other surviving soldiers (1-2) are the only ones left in the Castle capable of carrying the Mindworm to the Earth dimension now... dis gonna be interesting. One of them will not be who they pretend to be... or maybe the Mindworm will show up in its physical form if it has one.
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    1: Mindworm picks target
    2: Target (in this case human) starts to feel, see & hear things
    3: Target goes crazy unless interrupted

    I'm interested in whether the Mindworm jumps between targets or "infects" multiple at the same time.

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    Just a response to Zealous Knife's post over in FAQ: Read it here! They raised a good couple of points that I wanted to expand on, but my thoughts seemed to fit better over here!

    According to all of the official info released about Etrius, we know that he has a strong distaste for authority, to the point of extreme insubordination. We also know that the Elite Team is not technically supposed to exist, and is a team that pulls tactical and martial personnel from all over, instead of necessarily relying on the internal recruiting system of a single government. If we're going on the idea that the "U.S. American" military has gone widely unchanged since the dissolve of the U.S. (I'll get to this in another post), then that puts Elite Team squarely outside of the standard chain of command, which makes Etrius's disdain of authority make a lot of sense, actually.

    Chain of command (CoC here on out), while mighty effective at making sure things actually get done, is also a way to protect those of subordinate rank. If anything happens to a single person, a squad, a platoon, etc., the chain of command goes up to the appropriate commander to determine who is to blame for the mess-up. Miss-information, any coercion to perform unlawful acts, and anything where the acting unit is left in a situation where the orders they're following are not compliant with the distinguished terms of war is supposed to be pinned on the commanding officer; in this case, the general and his superiors.

    However,the Elite Team does not have a solid, permanent place in the CoC. This means that anybody that has worked with or employed the Elite Team can just turn a blind eye and go mum about them whenever convenient. I gather that this would be quite a bit of the time, as their removal from the standard rules (dare I say laws?) of the military they represent gives them a platform from which to do things quietly and discreetly.

    Looking at this theory from Etrius's point of view, this would be a situation where in which I would not only be distrusting of my higher ups, but scared of them to a certain degree. What if paying government X tells my men and I to go do A thing at B location, with or without letting us know that doing A thing will directly confront government Y? And when government Y comes yelling war cries, government X decides to not keep us a secret and out us as a bunch of terrorists? What if government X tells us to go do C thing at D location, and while we think we're going to be helping by doing C thing, the populace of D location (and any other people they have influence over) all see us as doing horrible things, turn on us, and government X decides to jump ship on responsibility?

    I don't know about you all, but to me, that sounds terrifying. And considering the kind of stuff that Etrius says after touching the orb, I think Etrius is a bit scared, too. "They're using you." "Did you know about this?- Of course you did." "You're being brainwashed." These sound like arguments that Etruis is using against the general more out of desperation than anything else. Maybe he even told himself some of these things at some points in his life.

    This leads me to believe that, if the general had been the first one to pick up the orb and actually had visions from it, they wouldn't be the same visions Etrius was having- the mindworm/evil/power in the orb probably confronts you with your biggest concerns, which for the general would not be the same things Etrius is worried about. The general is probably more concerned with how the hell this war is going to end, and is there going to be a world after they get this all sorted out? Is the human species going to render their earth uninhabitable before they can get a new resource? Is the resource going to be powerful enough to fully sustain the global population, or is this not even enough and will the human race go back into a dark age?

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    Interesting, ever since I saw that part with the orb 10 years ago, I always thought like Etrius was talking about Ancients/Evils controlling The General. No real idea how they could have brainwashed him, but I thought he was being manipulated to bring The Orb to the Earth which would help Ancients/Evils take over.
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    I really like the approach of your theory about the orb. It actually makes alot of sense. I never thought of it like this either. But if this is actually the way it works in canon, I can only try to imagine what a mess the orb is probably going to cause as its power might be transferred from person to person. I mean, if it shows you your biggest fears (simplified)?... It could make soldiers go rogue, make people turn on each others. Just imagine what could happen if it moved into someone who senses betrayal and corruption everywhere? Someone with alot of power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinoi View Post
    Interesting, ever since I saw that part with the orb 10 years ago, I always thought like Etrius was talking about Ancients/Evils controlling The General. No real idea how they could have brainwashed him, but I thought he was being manipulated to bring The Orb to the Earth which would help Ancients/Evils take over.
    I think Etrius thinks that, too. We know that the mindworm causes (or at least presents as) multiple symptoms of psychosis (visual/auditory hallucinations, delusional parasitosis, etc.) The mindworm might use this as one of its tricks to get back to a being's or species's home. The only thing really making this inconsistent with other displays of parasites altering the behavior of a host to benefit the parasite in question is that the mindworm is, as far as we can tell, hyper-intelligent.

    But this just begs the question, in its home dimension, what niche did the mindworm serve? Can it travel dimensions at will? If it can, then does that make its niche a multi-dimentional one of dramatically reducing the size of intelligent species populations? Or is it an act of free will on the mindworm's end, much like a lot of decisions we make (though there are plenty of people that would argue just how much free will we have, but that's probably not an argument suited for forum debate)?
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    I would say the mindworm could serve as a sort of leader. It seems very intelligent and with such abilities it could help take over hostile races and defeat them.
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    So, with the idea that the role of the mindworm is that of a leader, we're implying that the mindworm functioned in a society that needed leading. Would this society have been the original dimension that merged with the Castle dimension? While that would make things easier, the mindworm has suggested that it has gone from world to world, implying that the mind worm has jumped many dimensions.

    Your specific wording "hostile races" has me thinking, what if the mindworm was some sort of policing entity created by an undiscovered group of humanoids in an undiscovered dimension? It seems a bit malicious for that, though. Thoughts?

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