[Art]Pistols and Rifles

[Jaded]

This is an add-on to my previous post [ART}?SMG

(http://deletionquality.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=788), i took

the critisism from that smg and i made these over 2 days, as before it was

done alot at school.

Hope you like them!, pls give construsctive

critisism if you have

it:)

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f271/sk8king989/Pistols.pn

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what da ya think?
(and yes they were

traced)

[fedora]

They're not terrible,

but they seem a little unrealiztic

[Jaded]

They're not terrible, but they seem a little

unrealiztic
unrealistic how? i need more detail, im still

experimenting so i need to know what to change.

[Blackwater]

The colors make them really hard to look

at. Not that they are ugly, but its that you have to focus on them to make

them out as opposed to just rolling your eyes over them.

[Silhouette]

Yeah man the

colours are really bad. The USP looks alright I guess but the rest have

wonky lines or at least where lines should be. You should keep the lines in

your guns.

[Netrosis]

learn to trace and colour, thats all I wish to say.

[Jaded]

Lol thanks guys, so put

lines on and make da colours better, but people havent really told me in what

way to make them better?, like dull them or get rid of some, i need info im

still in the learning process.

But do you at least think im

improving?? lol

[Netrosis]

They all look traced, good guns shouldn't look traced. Learn to

colour in, just because its that colour in the picture doesn't mean it

should be that colour. Generally guns are monochromatic except for a few

specialist parts on a few specialist guns.

Its all about style and

personal experimentation. You'll find a way to do something that you like

that someone else might not and you'll develop a style, that you would

like.

Generally guns need to be cell shaded, as they are 3D oriented

objects. This is basically imitating a 3D program. I use it when drawing alot

of boxed and box based objects.

Some look good and some look bad but

its up to you. If you like them the way they are then thats what should

matter. You shouldn't spend more time than you need to, trying to please

somebody that might never be happy with your work. But as long as you

understand that you will never please everyone, and you will never get it

right, you can only try as much as you want and the result if a recipient of

your input. Nowadays, there is so much quantity, people easily prefer quality

over quantity, and this should be reflected as a part of your works. Do you

prefer quality over quantity? is it easier?

[Jaded]

Ya i thought a few of

them were pretty bad too, but thanks alot for this info, i will experiment

more and hope to make some better ones, TY:)

[VipER X]

they're ok, but seriously, try to make them

NOT look traced, i personally like simpler guns, with less detail, and if you

trace them, why dont you just use the originals?

[Jaded]

they're ok, but seriously, try to make them NOT

look traced, i personally like simpler guns, with less detail, and if you

trace them, why dont you just use the originals?
ya i know im guns

get rid of lots of the detail, but i just went and edited the ones i likes, i

made them more monochromatic and added the lines back


http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f271/sk8king989/Guns2.png


nil work on making them simpler l8er

[paolo_viper]

the first ones ROCK, fuck the

unrealistick shit it is better this way the world we live is SUCK dont copy

it make it better :D

[Oscar]

Much better with the outlines but I gotta agree - Looks a little traced yes

:|

[Jaded]

ya i know im a bit of a gun n00b but im guna go back and edit

them to get rid of the traced look

[paolo_viper]

Much better with the

outlines but I gotta agree - Looks a little traced yes :|
well he

tracet those didint he :?

[Netrosis]

they still look very,

flat. if you know what I mean.

[Jaded]

netrosis im having a bit of trouble trying to understand what is

wrong with them/what needs to change.

if its not to much trouble do

you think you could find an example so i have an idea of what u talkin

about?

[VipER X]

they're ok, but seriously, try to make

them NOT look traced, i personally like simpler guns, with less detail, and

if you trace them, why dont you just use the originals?
ya i know

im guns get rid of lots of the detail, but i just went and edited the ones i

likes, i made them more monochromatic and added the lines back


http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f271/sk8king989/Guns2.png


nil work on making them simpler l8er

gotta <3 these guns, MUCH

better. also oscar did you use flat guns in slakt? because when the purple

guy turned the gun looked really flat

[V12]

i wanna use those Guns

for Cs 1.6..

Those would sure my Victory...

[Jaded]

There i went back and

edited a few of them to make them look less traced, i also added some

gradients, some of them look better some of them worse, give me your thoughts

:)
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f271/sk8king989/Gunsfinished.png

[VipER X]

you did well with the gradients,

making them subtle, but don't use them TOO much

[`seCks]

nice :D

[Jaded]

ty ya i thought some of

the gradients popped out to much as well.

[Silhouette]

They look a

bit better with the outlines and better colours but that Glock man, it just

has lines everywhere that shouldn't be there. That's what I think Oscar and

Netrosis are referring to when they say it looks traced. It looks traced cos

you've traced every single line. You don't need to do that. You need to

know the gun and only trace the bits that should be there. If you understand

what I'm saying. It's all a bit confusing.

[Heavy-Gear]

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f271/sk8king989

/Pistols.png


Compared

to:



http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f271/

sk8king989/Gunsfinished.png


That is a HUGE

difference in my opinion, just keep going at it ur getting better every time

:)

[Jaded]

They look a bit better with the outlines and better

colours but that Glock man, it just has lines everywhere that shouldn't be

there. That's what I think Oscar and Netrosis are referring to when they say

it looks traced. It looks traced cos you've traced every single line. You

don't need to do that. You need to know the gun and only trace the bits that

should be there. If you understand what I'm saying. It's all a bit

confusing.
Ya i know i tried to fix it but i guess to fix it

completely id have to retrace it, but ya for my next ones, from what i

learned in this post itl look better.