New threads for noobs?

[TheOnlyHorse]

I suggest that members with less than 30 posts have to wait before they can post new threads. It's VERY annoying when noobs post new ponintless threads... So, what do you think?

EDIT I mean 50 posts.

[neoguy12]

good....interesting idea

l really feel the deepness of your idea

[TheOnlyHorse]

N00B WARNING
Read our rules neoguy: http://forums.deletionquality.net/showthread.php?t=8

Okay somebody that isn't a noob. What do you think about this idea?

[Tyemdi]

That's a very good idea TOH. :yesnod:

[TehAvenger]

Hm, I think more than 30 posts. Maybe 50. Because "they" usually post a lot. Especially on their first day. I know, I was one of them. =3

[TheOnlyHorse]

Hm, I think more than 30 posts. Maybe 50.Hm yeah. 50 posts sounds like a better choice. You're right.

[Kreekakon]

Well they get to post their Intro threads don't they?

[BanHammor]

Good idea.

[TehAvenger]

Hm yeah. 50 posts sounds like a better choice. You're right.

Yay, Finally. Someone listened to me.


Well they get to post their Intro threads don't they?

They should post in Tawl's thread. So there should really be no point to a "Introduce yourself" forum.
Clicky (http://forums.deletionquality.net/showthread.php?t=2952)

[Kreekakon]

That thread was never meant for people to post their intros in. The new members just somehow like to introduce themselves in there...and voila. A new trend has been born.

[TheOnlyHorse]

Well they get to post their Intro threads don't they?They could be allowed to make ONE thread in the "Introduce yourself" forum. But after that, they have to get 50 posts before they can make new threads.

But TehAvengers idea sounded good too. This site is growing fast.
More new members = a shitload off "introduce yourself" threads.

[Paperback Writer]

In the Swain, you had to post an intro thread before you could even post in ANYTHING. Should we add that into this idea?

[FoxyLady]

I think this is excellent because on my first day here I posted a pointless thread and got picked because of it and I kept making pointless threads but now I have changed!
Have I or haven't I?

[BanHammor]

Well... It may be shocking to you but


























YES!!!!!!!!

[FoxyLady]

Whats shocking to me?

[TheOnlyHorse]

Whats shocking to me?*facepalm* You don't get it right?
In the Swain, you had to post an intro thread before you could even post in ANYTHING. Should we add that into this idea?Hm... :think:

Okay, here's an idea:

When somebody joins DQ, they have to post an intro thread. After that they're able to post. But NOT make new threads until they get 50 posts.

Good or bad?

[Kreekakon]

Oooohhh I just love putting everyone's thoughts togetherxD!

Yes I think that would be most proper except....what if they need to ask for help and they "discover" that they cannot post in the Help section?

[TheOnlyHorse]

Yes I think that would be most proper except....what if they need to ask for help and they "discover" that they cannot post in the Help section?They could PM the mods. And noobs can find the most off the help in the FAQ, help section or other threads etc. I figured out how to use DQ V.3 on my own (duh easy). I bet other people can do it too (duh why couldn't they). If the noobs don't know how to browse a forum. They shouldn't be here. We don't want more off them, or?

[Kreekakon]

When I said that the new members needed help I kinda meant non-forum help like fixing computers or something. You'd be surprised at the amount and the speed of getting help from forums.

So I think plus what you said above OnlyHorse, that we can leave the help section open for new members.

[Flashlight]

That's a very good idea TOH. :yesnod:

Doubled.

[BanHammor]

So... merging ideas and sending to mods. OK?
I suggest that members with less than 50 posts have to wait before they can post new threads, except the Intro(one, if it is not allowed by a mod for more) . For help they can use PMing and (possibly) the help section with one allowed thread.
Also, the noobs are not allowed to post anything before the Intro.

Am I getting that right?

[TheOnlyHorse]

Am I getting that right?That sounds perfect!

But this means the admins have to change some options. Or are the mods allowed to block and open specific options for different kinds of members?

[codbarley]

thats a great idea, toh.

[Victory]

Send it to an Admin instead - mods really can't do anything about that sort of thing except shake their fist and grind their teeth.

[atreides]

It's a nice idea, and would probably tone down the retardation.
I like it. :)

[Wadling]

I don't like the idea... I hate to be the only one but I think it's too complicated, it will confuse a lot of people and i also think that it will just cause for a load of new threads being made asking why they couldn't make new threads.

Also, I for one quite like having a load of noobs on the forum, it's funny in most cases, and part of the whole forum experience.

[TehAvenger]

I don't like the idea... I hate to be the only one but I think it's too complicated, it will confuse a lot of people and i also think that it will just cause for a load of new threads being made asking why they can't make new threads.


Even though, I partly contributed to this, Wadling's right. this may get confusing. But remember, you don't join a forum (or do anything really) without reading the rules and/or knowing what to do.

[Paperback Writer]

I don't like the idea... I hate to be the only one but I think it's too complicated, it will confuse a lot of people and i also think that it will just cause for a load of new threads being made asking why they can't make new threads.

Also, I for one quite like having a load of noobs on the forum, it's funny in most cases, and part of the whole forum experience.
WE could have pop-ups reminding noobs that are trying to make a thread on anywhere else except the Intro.

[Tawl]

While suggested with good intentions, I dislike the idea. It creates hoops that people must jump through in order to become a full part of the community, something many people could look down on. Additionally it could create incentive for people to post as fast as they can to get their post counts up, creating more useless posts than it prevents. Quality is far preferred over quantity. If a memeber truly is noobish then their threads will be the same, regardless of their postcount.

Threads ceated by noobs are easily controlled by mods. My suggestion is to simply not post in it if it is an obvious thread that will be closed or removed. You don't need to all voice your opinion and laugh at someone who has made a mistake, no matter how small or large it is.

[Yellow Fingered Insomniac]

Yes, the idea's good, it may also stop some noobs from hanging around and noobing up DQ "The Noob-O-meter has shown record high-""SHUT UP YOU STUPID DOCTOR" (See, like that noobishness)

But really, something should be done.

[TehAvenger]

Tawl makes a good point, but I've recently checked out "their" postcount, and in most cases noobs don't really make it over 50 posts. Due to being banned or leaving out of boredom. But, I remember Tawl saying Quality over Quantity, so if a new member has posted decent posts, mods should lift his/her "No Thread" effect.

[Yellow Fingered Insomniac]

Tawl makes a good point, but I've recently checked out "their" postcount, and in most cases noobs don't really make it over 50 posts. Due to being banned or leaving out of boredom. But, I remember Tawl saying Quality over Quantity, so if a new member has posted decent posts, mods should lift his/her "No Thread" effect.

Yeah, but how are mods going to keep track of all of those noobs, that would just take too long, and knowing mods (lazy, kidding) they probably don't want to do that, they'd have much more fun humiliating people publicly than in private.

Hmmm, a predicament we are in.

[Kreekakon]

Being a mod isn't about fun and publicly. It's work that you do even if no one sees you do it.

[Paperback Writer]

Could we have a sort of sandbox forum for Noobs to try?

[Silence]

Send it to an Admin instead - mods really can't do anything about that sort of thing except shake their fist and grind their teeth.

But they do it very, very, very effectively.

[TheOnlyHorse]

This sounds a bad planned idea which popped out between your ears.
No.Give me a better idea to get rid of the noobs then.

[Netrosis]

I dislike the idea, overall.

Its punishing people for what they haven't done. 30-50 posts is actually a lot for some people, not to mention when they're slightly misinformed as is the case especially for a newbie, you guys rip em to bits.

Its not compulsary to write an Intro thread, thats there so those who are new can say "Hi I'm new I have {x} questions about DQ, I love Castle, Wanted and {x} and Banana is my favourite colour.

I don't wanna be some control freak extremist who goes you MUST post FIFTY TIMES BEFORE YOU CAN create a thread. Its not particularly welcoming for genuine people and not even really offputting for the mischevious type, just an obstacle to overcome.

What if someone really talented comes along, but he can't create a thread in the Showoff forum? He'll go and try somewhere else, possibly somewhere horrible like Stickpage *shudder*.

We're a multicultural community here at DQ and that includes some tolerance for the stupids too. You're not forced to be here so if you don't particularly like someone or something, you can leave temporarily as I myself did at one stage (but not because of someone in particular, just was distracted as a whole, mmm WoW!). Heck even permanently! (We can arrange a ban if you NEVER want to come back *rubs evil hands together*).

Overall there are noobs yes. I've seen noobs reform themselves, better themselves and be great contributors to the community in time. Thats really all I would hope for because in time people mature too.

If they're real pesky noobs, we do warn, warn, ban them. But thats because some don't realise their behaviour is really as bad as it is. I'd give them a second chance.

Thats just the reality about our members and the major demographic of people we have here at DQ. We Adapt and do our best but no system will ever be perfect, and there will be those who abuse the system. mmmkay?

[Paperback Writer]

Did the last part mean that you guys are really prone to corruption?

[Ethernet Owl]

I agree with Net. Newbies might be gods in art, and maybe want to make art threads, but they can't, so they leave and tell their friends, that the place sucks, because you can't make threads until you get 50 posts.
Then we get a bad image, and nobody wants to come here anymore.

[GolyBlood]

I agree with Net. Newbies might be gods in art, and maybe want to make art threads, but they can't, so they leave and tell their friends, that the place sucks, because you can't make threads until you get 50 posts.
Then we get a bad image, and nobody wants to come here anymore.

New light.

[DrunkCat]

Did the last part mean that you guys are really prone to corruption?

Ironically that pertains to gents like you. :)

[Razgriz]

Sorry TOH, I have disagree with all this... This is the reason we have MODs.

[Paperback Writer]

Then how about a new suggestion? Like post in the Intro Forum FIRST. That's it. No need for anything else.


Ironically that pertains to gents like you.
Hey, we're all hypocrites, ain't we?

[TehAvenger]

Its not compulsary to write an Intro thread, thats there so those who are new can say "Hi I'm new I have {x} questions about DQ, I love Castle, Wanted and {x} and Banana is my favourite colour.

I don't wanna be some control freak extremist who goes you MUST post FIFTY TIMES BEFORE YOU CAN create a thread. Its not particularly welcoming for genuine people and not even really offputting for the mischevious type, just an obstacle to overcome.

What if someone really talented comes along, but he can't create a thread in the Showoff forum? He'll go and try somewhere else, possibly somewhere horrible like Stickpage *shudder*.

We're a multicultural community here at DQ and that includes some tolerance for the stupids too. You're not forced to be here so if you don't particularly like someone or something, you can leave temporarily as I myself did at one stage (but not because of someone in particular, just was distracted as a whole, mmm WoW!). Heck even permanently! (We can arrange a ban if you NEVER want to come back *rubs evil hands together*).


If they're real pesky noobs, we do warn, warn, ban them. But thats because some don't realise their behaviour is really as bad as it is. I'd give them a second chance.

Thats just the reality about our members and the major demographic of people we have here at DQ. We Adapt and do our best but no system will ever be perfect, and there will be those who abuse the system. mmmkay?

What if we leave some forums open like the Introduction Forum. But keep General, Off-topic and other fourms only to people with 50 posts.

[Netrosis]

1. Post Count is not a measure of someone's noobiness.

2. There is no way of knowing if a new person will break the rules until they actually post, in the general case.


If you have a solution that does not consider the user's post count, I'm happy to listen. Otherwise can we stop the prejudice against new people. Yes there are some who will be idiots but you need to realise that there are also others and as a community you also need to think of them as well.

What may deter one, may be frustrating for the other so it is difficult to find a balance. This also means the existing members need to learn tolerance towards new people and point them in the right direction, rather than the stupid bashing thats going on.

Otherwise everyone is going to annoy all the new people and the older members too and the community will suffer for it as a whole.

[TehAvenger]

Well, I got nothing. Fresh out of ideas. But I still like the premise of this suggestion.

[Andrehydra]

I disagree to this idea, but the idea is awesome though.

People who don't have much posts and are still noobs should have the right to post threads.

What if that new member was actually a smart guy who went to 10 other forums before and was an administrator there?

You can never tell.

So I agree with Net here.


Sorry TOH, I have disagree with all this... This is the reason we have MODs.

Dude, I agree.

The "50 posts" thing is a good idea, but its just not that good to put in the rules of DQ.

[TehAvenger]

What about if we keep forums to people with decent posts. No postcount.
Bah, Bad idea. Wanted to share it anyway.

[Paperback Writer]

I'm m still sticking to my Intro Thread only. Of course the smart guy would be SMART enough. I mean, he or she is an experienced forum user.

[TehAvenger]

I'm still sticking to my Intro Thread only. Of course the smart guy would be SMART enough. I mean, he is an experienced forum user.

What about just the whole Introduction Forum

[DrunkCat]

Hey, we're all hypocrites, ain't we?

It's what makes us part of nature. :3

[Netrosis]

It's what makes us part of nature. :3

hypocrite. :D

[DrunkCat]

I don't get it. :<

[TheOnlyHorse]

It's no idea to talk about this as long as people want noobs here.

Close the thread please.

[Thunder]

..I also think that it will just cause for a load of new threads being made asking why they couldn't make new threads.

Put it in the FAQ, then put on the registration page: 'READ THE FAQ, FOR GOD'S SAKE READ THE FAQ!'

[Flashlight]

I hope Dilly won't make a thread about his stupid storyboard.

For gods sake Dilly read the FAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tobu]

Lol i remember the first time i joined a forum (DQ Forums xD) I dodn't knew anything about forums...... Okay that was a little off-topic. Yeah seems like a good idea.