The General

[cokerpilot]

Why does every seem to hate him?

First off he tried to reason with Etrius
Second Etruis states that he's being brainwashed (He probably really believes he's doing the right thing)
Third If a guy in front of you just blew up the guy next to you wouldn't you freak
fourth. who was the last man out through the hole in wall. the general was.
fifth He tries to save the men on the other side of the bridge yelling at the people to stop shooting the flying daemon

[K.T.O_o]

Uh HELLO! Etrius wouldn't even be dead in the first place if the General hadn't forced him to go back into buisiness. I mean, seriously! Not only that, but his whole 'my way or the highway' act really pisses me off. But that's just me.:sosp: But I will say that you strike a good point.

[cokerpilot]

Now I'm not saying he's made of gold I'm just saying we haven't seen any evidence that he's bad. In fact he appeases to regret shooting him from what he said and the way the general acts why Beecher brings him up.

[K.T.O_o]

I did say you strike a good point. And I never said he was bad. He just really needs to get over himself.:nono:

[Hunter_Killer]

i think he hesitates on bringing up Etrius because, how will he get his men to follow him if they find out he killed Etrius? Hw will Boomer and Beecher act?

No i don't think he is bad... but i think he made some horrible choices in the last few movies...

EDIT: Granted he's only been in the last few parts of of Castle III...

[cokerpilot]

that's true he made some bad calls plus Beecher already knows he killed him

[Yellow Fingered Insomniac]

The only reason he was last out of the hole is because of trust, if he just jumped out and didn't consider anybody else, anybody who did get out would've killed him. And he was the first to the hole, he wasn't really in any sort of risk.

Also, I think he wanted them to stop shooting the demon so he could have more cannon fodder.

But you do bring up some brilliant points for a noob!

[Zackie]

The General is cunning...

[General Nonsense]

I'm not sure you guy, but I like people that has higher ranks.

[cokerpilot]

The only reason he was last out of the hole is because of trust, if he just jumped out and didn't consider anybody else, anybody who did get out would've killed him. And he was the first to the hole, he wasn't really in any sort of risk.

Also, I think he wanted them to stop shooting the demon so he could have more cannon fodder.

But you do bring up some brilliant points for a noob!

Dang your paranoid about him... :sosp:

But you could be right... :think:

personally I don't think we have enough info one way or the other

thank you though :biggrin5:

[TheOnlyHorse]

Why does every seem to hate him?!?

I love him! =D

[General Nonsense]

!?

I love him! =D

Yep, me neither.

[Hunter_Killer]

I like the general... but we don't know exactlly all the cards in his hand yet... just like Etrius, Beecher, Boomer, and Loyde...

[General Nonsense]

the cards in his hand yet

What cards?

[K.T.O_o]

The General is cunning...

Yes. Yes he is. Now the question is, How much is he willing to sacrifice.

[Wadling]

What makes you think that everyone hates the General? I like the General, he's the most down to earth character if you ask me. The others are all too gung-ho about the whole situation. You say he saved the guys so he could have more cannon fodder? How about because he might actually give a shit about the people around him...

[Hunter_Killer]

I still stand neutral to him since i don't know all the angles.... only then Can i make the desicion...

[Zackie]

I like the General too, constant headshots XD

[Yellow Fingered Insomniac]

Loyde...

W00t! Lloyd.

Sorry, but just to clarify, I'm just contributing, the cannon fodder thing was kind of a joke, but it could be true, who knows, I certainly don't:confused5:

[Silence]

The general rocks. End of story.

[cokerpilot]

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T_T i love you all.

[ide]

Also, I think he wanted them to stop shooting the demon so he could have more cannon fodder.

Or maybe he didn't want the bridge to collapse.

[neoguy12]

he's a good guy ...... sorta but hes a total piss-off
how he acts gets me ........ annoying..XD :biggrin5:

[Tobu]

is jordan shoes good enough for play basketball?

HEY! Seriously stop going off-topic! GOD DAMMIT! Are you stupid!?
What the hell has the General anything to do with some shoes?...

[kingmiami]

HEY! Seriously stop going off-topic! GOD DAMMIT! Are you stupid!?
What the hell has the General anything to do with some shoes?...

Ha! ROFL sig quote!

[Tobu]

Ha! ROFL sig quote!

Nice! Thanks mate :D Ok. I have to get back on topic again!

Anyway! I like the general! He's cool! But maybe he's only saving all his men because he want to survive, and he's smart so he know he can't kill all these deamons and zombies alone..... Just think about it.....

[Flashlight]

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T_T i love you all.

Thanks.

[Alejandro]

Well the general is really great with guns. For all I know.

[XdbX]

Why does every seem to hate him?
First off he tried to reason with Etrius

You got it backwards.


Second Etruis states that he's being brainwashed (He probably really believes he's doing the right thing)

ya if some one said i was being brain washed i would just kill them.
what a super cool world we live in where we can kill people because they say we are being brain washed.


Third If a guy in front of you just blew up the guy next to you wouldn't you freak

I might be he did not... no wait i would pee my pants... but not the gen... or did he?...
fourth. who was the last man out through the hole in wall. the general was.
fifth
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So he was happy as the next guy to get out of their.


He tries to save the men on the other side of the bridge yelling at the people to stop shooting the flying daemon
Ya um i think he said Idiots at one point.

[Mattbot]

General = awesome!

[TheOnlyHorse]

General = awesome!Castle wouldn't be Castle without the General. :/ Don't kill him Oscar! DI

Okay kill him I'd love to see it. ^^

EDIT
But I still love him.>8(

[Kreekakon]

Castle wouldn't be Castle without the General. :/ Don't kill him Oscar! DI

Okay kill him I'd love to see it. ^^

EDIT
But I still love him.>8(

Shhhh....you'll motivate him

[Flashlight]

I hope the general dies hehehe.

[TheOnlyHorse]

I hope the general dies hehehe.Me too. ^^

But you like him right? Even if we want him to die.

[Flashlight]

Me too. ^^

But you like him right? Even if we want him to die.

That's disturbing.

[TheOnlyHorse]

That's disturbing.Not THAT way. xD

[Flashlight]

Not THAT way. xD

Amen.

[Netrosis]

I like to think of the General as the Evil Good guy.

He's in a position where he has to choose between two bad choices, both have bad outcomes but not choosing would make an even worse outcome. So, you pick the lesser of the two bad decisions and be Optimistic.

He's a liar, he tricked Etrius and the men out of their lives for a blind search. Searching for the orb for its power but hiding it because he knows if he says something he'll never get it, and Earth would be doomed without doing so.

At least, thats my interpretation anyway. He's still bad, but on the good side.

[Tobu]

Actually i dn't want the general to be dead... I like the way he is and i like his whole army! They are so cool and they have cool guns. It just wont be the same without the general!...
OK just kill him if you want Oscar.... Just make it entertaining to watch, i like the way Oscar animate. I never gets bored when i watch the Castle series :thumbsup:

[bob123]

The general's skilled, but what if there's a mutiny? Beecher knows what happened to Etrius, what if he spreads it around. How could 1 person with a magnum kill a bunch of soldiers with machine guns?

[XdbX]

easy line them up. turn the forum one backwards. and aim for his head.
Then fire and you just kill a FRACKING lot of men with head shots.

[Chrome_Tyler]

Uh HELLO! Etrius wouldn't even be dead in the first place if the General hadn't forced him to go back into buisiness. I mean, seriously! Not only that, but his whole 'my way or the highway' act really pisses me off. But that's just me.:sosp: But I will say that you strike a good point.

Seconded....

[Marrden]

Actually, non of the Castle series would have happened if the General hadn't made work for him again. So its kinda stupid that it makes you pissed off.

[C.12334]

The general is a BICH! he could have killed Etrius back there!:mad3:
(Etrius is the son of the general too.)

[Sunshine Man]

Well the General is just misled. Just as Oscar stated that the General has superiors and that Etrius was referring to them when He said," your being brainwashed, they're just using you to get their hands on the power." So I don't think the General is a bad person, just off.:confused5:

[TWL]

Nice observation ,he does care about his soldiers sometimes but it seems that he see obtaining that power as a more prior goal.
The general's plan is unknown and I don't think it's just "I Gonna Rule The World!"
Hard to judge whether he is on the right side but I am sure the doctor is "Axxhole"

[exodus]

I don't get why almost everybody hates the general (not me)? Without him, etrius wouldn't have been recruited, thus we have no protoganist, and then no story. though i wonder why he shot etrius when he exploded the guard in the center of the altar room?(was he scared?)

[BanHammor]

Indeed, he was.

[Husky]

There will always be a conflict in the end which involves the previous characters. Due to this fact, that's how good movies are created.

Possibilities determine the general as to be the most likely betrayor in the end. Since it's quite certain (not 100%) that it would not be previous characters such as Plissking, Boomer etc. Although Ramanov might have some chance but I think he's just an extra character.

[bob123]

one good thing that i can thing of the general is that hes saved ray.

[DrMcPhearson]

I have always believed that General was a character was the best intentions; he truly seems to think that the Orb will solve the resource war. The most arguments against him is that he is head-strong (most leaders have to be to resist being 'stepped on') and that he killed Etrius; let's remember, though, that he only fired the weapon after Etrius literally destroyed the innocent soldier. If anything, Etrius looks like the traitor in this situation.

I do think, however, that General's superiors are using him as a puppet to carry out their own agenda.

[exodus]

Yes, it does seem that the general doesn't have any wrong/bad/evil intentions, though I can say he is unaware of what he is really doing.
Since, he was only doing it for the good of others and for the world, i really wouldn't say that he is the bad person in that or in any situation in the castle series so far, he is just blinded, yes, blinded by his superiors that led him to this kind of fate(i mean that the people doesn't like the general).

[Zackie]

General looks very suspicious

[Colten822]

The only thing bad I ever saw in the General is when he was demanding the artifact saying "GIVE ME THE ARTIFACT NOW!!!" And the brainwashing part. Oscer sure does leave you hanging.... Exciting:P

[Beecher420]

the general is confusing :sosp: i mean he killed etrius :mad3: but he did save the men :thumbsup: whoa thats alot of disturbia

Lets go my blade vs your gun yeah... no contest

[Mr.Evilmidget]

I don't hate the general, he only knows so much about his bosses and their plans. You can't possibly expect him to know about all of it and still work under his superiors. I mean, during the resourcewar and all this other stuff, WHY THE HECK ARE THE BOSSES SO FOCUSED ON POWER?! The freaking planet is dieing and all they think of is power. The general should eventually find out about this, and kill these guys. But, who knows, maybe the general does know and is helping them with this stupid power idea. They need to save this earth, not be so power pissed.

[Crayas]

I think the people who love etrius hate the general for shooting him, thats possible. overall i think all the characters are cool. (why is it all my favorite characters are the ones that end up dead or evil?)

[SooperNoobie]

I don't hate the general, he only knows so much about his bosses and their plans. You can't possibly expect him to know about all of it and still work under his superiors. I mean, during the resourcewar and all this other stuff, WHY THE HECK ARE THE BOSSES SO FOCUSED ON POWER?! The freaking planet is dieing and all they think of is power. The general should eventually find out about this, and kill these guys. But, who knows, maybe the general does know and is helping them with this stupid power idea. They need to save this earth, not be so power pissed.

Well when you think about it, humans prefer to survive than worry about the fate of the planet, and the only way they can do that is through technology, which can't work without an energy source, hence getting their hands on the orb; however, knowing that it also contains the secrets of the Ancients and their powers, maybe they have their own ulterior motives behind getting it, too.

[Parkill]

HELLO!!! He didn't even want to go back to save Lloyd!!!! I can't believe Beecher didn't tell anybody that the General shot Etrius. That's just totally SCREWED UP!!!:mad3:
I can't believe you even thought that it was fair! Etrius was hallucinating!!!!!! I mean, really, something got screwed up with Etrius right after he touched that black thingy!!!!!

If you think I'm going to put up with your inferior logic in this field of the Castle series, YOU ARE ACORN NUTS!!!!!! :mad3:

[Flashlight]

HELLO!!! He didn't even want to go back to save Lloyd. I can't believe Beecher didn't tell anybody that the General shot Etrius. That's just totally SCREWED UP!!!:mad3:
I can't believe you even thought that it was fair! Etrius was totally hallucinating

If you think I'm going to put up with that kind of inferior logic, YOU ARE ACORN NUTS!!!!!! :mad3:

Shut up.

[SooperNoobie]

HELLO!!! He didn't even want to go back to save Lloyd!!!! I can't believe Beecher didn't tell anybody that the General shot Etrius. That's just totally SCREWED UP!!!:mad3:
I can't believe you even thought that it was fair! Etrius was hallucinating!!!!!! I mean, really, something got screwed up with Etrius right after he touched that black thingy!!!!!

If you think I'm going to put up with your inferior logic in this field of the Castle series, YOU ARE ACORN NUTS!!!!!! :mad3:

Hm? Etrius was hallucinating? Alright, that would be plausible were it not for the fact he was ALSO able to tear a man to shreds with a single thought. I doubt he was hallucinating.

And, inferior logic? Etrius is told to get the artifact. He picks it up, he starts telling me I'm being brainwashed and that he can't give it to me now. ...Okay, something's wrong with him, I'm thinking. I keep telling him to give me the artifact, even resorting to threats if I have to, but he won't budge. Then another of my men comes up to tell me about Romanov leaving with a couple of our guys and... Etrius just kills the guy without even physically doing anything to him. Okay, Etrius is a threat to me, everyone else here, AND the mission. As far as I know, I could be next. I agree that he should've thought this out more instead of acting upon the first impulse which was to shoot him in the head, and I'm not saying it was the best idea, but you need to understand his position.

[Flashlight]

Finally a normal post.

[nicowico]

i dont think he was being bad he was just doing what he thought was right when he was last out of alot of the places is think because he was helping people out.:banjo:
or he was tryin to get himself killed or somethin:think:

[MyNameIsAlsoOscar]

i agree with cokerpilot

[cokerpilot]

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wow I actually contributed a good thread...
that makes me happy.

repercussions hasn't offered us any new evidence yet e their

I hope mike's okay as well as the others

[Scythe Cat]

The solders that are trap in the castle are now thinking that General is the....well you know what...

I'm not exacly sure if he's a bad guy or not though...

[woo1693]

!?

I love him! =D

So do I he is awsim! the only horse you are seemed to be very smart so is cocker pilot

[Creature]

I like the General. Yah, I know, he's pretty suspisous.:sosp: He might be doing this all for himself and not Earth's resources, but even though, he's still a sharp and clever man.:ihih: I mean, he is pretty good. When boomer exploded the door to get out, the general waited for everyone to get out before he left himself even though he is the highest rank. He shot Etrius, but for good reason. And he did regret it afterwards.:(

[...I'm not telling you!]

I really don't have an opinion on the general...i think hes good, but is workking for evil because they promised him something theyc cant give and that all i know...

[Postal]

I don't have a problem with the general at all, but I was rather sad when he killed Etrius. :sad:

[GolyBlood]

I still think that General's awesome.

[live2wrestle]

I like the general. Idc that he shot Etrius because i probably would have done the same thing.

[Scuds]

I think the General is lame. What kind of General shoots his own man. Yeah he did warn Etrius and Etrius did blow up one of the soldiers, but still, it's wrong. Plus the General is obviusly hiding something from the other soldiers. I just really dont like him (i dont like his barret either).

[...I'm not telling you!]

Dude, if your a general, you would have to shoot a man in that situation, if any one is a threat to you or your men-and is that deadly-they need to die.

[Scuds]

I guess thats true... but i still think there is something suspicious about the General.:think:

[live2wrestle]

I guess thats true... but i still think there is something suspicious about the General.:think:

i agree but i dont hate him for shooting Etrius.

[...I'm not telling you!]

hmmm...i don't know what it is about the General that makes me suspicious about him...

Etrius 'They're just using you as a puppet to get your hands on the power!'

[pvt tony]

i like the general but not that much, i mean, he shot Etrius and when Beecher asked what happened, he became strange. just look:

Beecher: whatabout Lloyd and Etrius?
general: Lloyd got himself out of tricky situations before, he can't handle this one.
Beecher: an Etrius (*think* you shot him, you sonofabitch, TALK)
the general (*think* aw fuck, he know that i shot him)... there's a courtyard north-west of here, the choppers alredy made the way there, let's go!

[Ultor]

Just found the castle series and would like to say that it is IMMENSE! The best thing i have seen on the internet in a LONG time. Maybe ever.
The general rocks majorly. He tried to reason with Etrius who then went and blew up the other soldier so he had no choice but to shoot him.I suppose Mullins and the others just blame him broadly for bringing them there in the first place.

I want to know if Dr. Romonov escaped? What ever happened to that guy. I liked his accent. Plus, who is 'Some Other Guy'?

[pvt tony]

yes Romanov escaped, he escaped because he understanded wath was happening, he didn't wanted to die.

some other guy is an soldier (we don't know his real name) that was with Boomer has they falled down the bridge.

hope i helped you. :thumbsup:

[Ultor]

Just having a thought here about the General's supposed superirs though it is pretty convoluted. Suppose the General really does think the orb will bring to an end the resource-war however that is only what he is being told. Maybe it has a more sinister purpose and touching it let Etrius in on that fact...

However this still gives Etrius no right to detonate someone Scanners-style

[...I'm not telling you!]

I think that hes kind of being convusled and possesed by the spiruts and powers in the orb. That artifact is the one that cintains the ancients power, so maybe its too much for him to control, and when he pointed at the man, the old mannor of which the powerf were usually used for acted out and blew the soldier up?:think:...(all these big fancy words, and then he says, blew the soldier up)

[Scuds]

I dont blame Etrius for blowing up that soldier. Etrius was probably just really pissed off. I would be mad too if i had someone pointing a gun at me. And if i was Etrius and had the power of the ancients i would have blown the general up before he shot me in the head.

[Scythe Cat]

Its hard too tell that the General is a Good Guy or Bad Guy
But to me, I have no idea.....

[pvt tony]

mabe both, he killed Etrius but was sorry for it, same for Lloyd.

[Scythe Cat]

Wait so the General was sorry for it?
Can you kind of explain that pvt tony?

[...I'm not telling you!]

He didn't LOOK sorry

[Ack-Ack]

Well in my opinion TG (The General) is more of a neutral character like he's not good or bad but yeah i strongly believe that he IS being used by the COs like what Etrius mentioned. Maybe his goverment wants power like the Nazis.:think:

[...I'm not telling you!]

I think, the evils spoke to the general, and told him that the power to re-build his world lied with in the castle, now, stick with me here.

I think, that the evils wanted the General to take the orb so they could leave the castle, because in the prologue, the Wise One for ever bound the evils to guarding the castle, right?
So, right nowm like Etrius said, they're using the General 'follow the orb' (escape the castle) and destroy everything.

Also, the general's gonna be pretty ______ off when he founds out all the powersw in the orb flooded into Etrius xD

[Scuds]

I really hope the general dies (or at least gets whats coming to him) in the future. It would be awesome if all the surviving soldiers got together and kicked the generals ass.:thumbsup:

[woo1693]

I think the General is lame. What kind of General shoots his own man. Yeah he did warn Etrius and Etrius did blow up one of the soldiers, but still, it's wrong. Plus the General is obviusly hiding something from the other soldiers. I just really dont like him (Plus I am gay).

So? you just said what kind of General shoots down his own man
well here is a question for you what kind of a soldier kills a fellow soldier trying to report to his commanding officer?


I really hope the general dies (or at least gets whats coming to him) in the future. It would be awesome if all the surviving soldiers got together and kicked the generals ass.:thumbsup:

Hmmmm I hope general kicks your ass!

[Shayphis]

The general would lose in a fight against all the soldiers. He's good, but not that good I'm sure.

[Ack-Ack]

IF they get the news from Beecher, I mean:

one Magnum VS 20 SMGs!

[woo1693]

IF they get the news from Beecher, I mean:

one Magnum VS 20 SMGs!

but still remember general have mythical powers to store infinity ammo in one magnum!

[Shayphis]

lol, maybe they just never show him realoading is all.

[Scuds]

Hmmmm I hope general kicks your ass!

No that woudn't happen. The general is too lame. I'd bet anything that the general is going to die at some point in the castle series.


What kind of a general just leaves his men behind. Like i said before...lame.

[...I'm not telling you!]

but still remember general have mythical powers to store infinity ammo in one magnum!

...he doesnt have mythical powers

[Scuds]

...he doesnt have mythical powers

sure he does...the mythical power to be incredibly lame.

[woo1693]

sure he does...the mythical power to be incredibly lame.

uhhh and you have mythical powers to me incredibly gay! :hand:

[Scuds]

uhhh and you have mythical powers to me incredibly gay! :hand:

And your mother has the mythical power to raise an incredibly stupid child. :dita:

[woo1693]

And my mother has the mythical power to raise an incredibly stupid child. :dita:

Also your father have the mythical power to not have any balls!
:yesnod:

[Shayphis]

The General will shoot us now.

[Scuds]

Also your father have the mythical power to not have any balls!
:yesnod:

okay...im kind of tired of this pointless argument. How about a truce?:think:

[Shayphis]

A truce in the name of the General would be nice.

[Feifong]

I think the general is cool but rough around the edges as well. I dunno I think there is more to the general than Oscar is letting on, but that's just my opinion :prrr:

-Feifong

[woo1693]

okay...im kind of tired of this pointless argument. How about a truce?:think:

Ok yeah it is kinda pointless i got carried away looks like those mindworms got in to my brain lol

[Shayphis]

One mindworm for every person, thank you!

[BLUE-EYE-748]

aren't we suppose to be talking about the general? well what i think of the general is he's a bit of a di*k sometimes but every now and then hes ok.

[Shayphis]

General's Intentions = Unknown

[woo1693]

General's Intentions = Unknown
I bet general is taking orders from someone... someone....
someone like OSCAR!

[Shayphis]

Oscar creates the world, no matter how much the characters screm for a diffrent plotline.

[woo1693]

Oscar creates the world, no matter how much the characters screm for a diffrent plotline.

True those soldiers scram at oscar for mercy but oscar sent his undead army of demons and droners, and invisible arms to kill them