Castle:source

[darkbeing]

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2241/bannerua.png
Castle: Source is a singleplayer/multiplayer mod. There are 7 chapters in normal gameplay. When you beat those it unlocks the "Reprecussion chapters"
five hardass chapters following the people left behind in the castle. The final "bonus" map wise_one is a map taking place in wiseones last moments, a huge graphictest, as well as a test for the kick/punch weapons.

The multiplayer part of the mod is a war between humans and ancients. The first map I have made was a snowy battlefield with thedragon and swarms ov evils, it also introduces several of the ancient tech, and evil magic. It is all around my favorite map I have designed so far, but not the best.

Pics an' vids

the "first" beta castle map, this is about 2 months old or so... The new one took a week to make, and cut a few things(music) and the castle blows up. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcFLtopfNvo

here were the first two weapons i had made for C:S, smgauto(soldiergun) and Lloyds blade

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YiSvQfDH38
a pic of AvH_battlefield, my first map for multiplayer
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2340/hammer2010033023010656.png

here is a newer version of the map, see the inprovement?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRhANvvDH3I
there, all the pics of my game on the web, any others are FAKE and should get reported.

ps. Draunia05, just because your freinds with oscar doesnt mean you have a right to calling weeks worth of planning crap, dumbass...

[theone!]

Nice! But you are going to do it more detailed right?

[Thecommander236]

I thought Oscar didn't want anyone to make a Castle game.

[darkbeing]

Beauty is, this ain't a game, it's a hl2 sourcemod. He doesn't want any flash website games. But it's ok, people make that mistake alot :P

[GolyBlood]

I do believe it's going to be more detailed?

[darkbeing]

Hell, ya thought that piece o crap was the final? No. The latest map is going to be the final, I'll make a vid tomorrow or Saturday.

[Kreekakon]

Well other than the vid, got any other screenshots of the sort? Like the ones I told you to take in the last thread.

EDIT:

Hell, ya thought that piece o crap was the final? No. The latest map is going to be the final, I'll make a vid tomorrow or Saturday.
So let me get this straight. That "piece o' crap" was an early version of the map I assume. And since you're saying that the final version of the map should be out tomorrow or Saturday, I'd would reckon the stage it's at now should be much higher in quality than what you just showed us. So why not just show us that near-completed version? At least it'll give a better impression than this one right now.

Unless of course you're a ultra speed worker that started the map only a few days ago and is going to finish it in just another few days.

[theone!]

Well...does the main charecters have their own special weapon? Like boomer=shotgun Lloyd=sword beecher=sniper?

[TheOnlyHorse]

It'd be awesome if you created a castle map were you start at the Orb altar and try to make your way to the choppers.

The Beta Castle map looks okay so far. The walls and door could use some castle styled textures. Real wood and stone textures wouldn't fit in my opinion.

[Draunia05]

Still not Satisfied.

[Bloody Shadow]

Nice I like it but ya more detail will make alot of deference. All ready can't wait for it lol.............keep it up! =]

[darkbeing]

Well...does the main charecters have their own special weapon? Like boomer=shotgun Lloyd=sword beecher=sniper?

Noooooo...... (evil smile) boomer gets an rpg, etrius gets a sword, Beecher a sniper, and Lloyd punch and kick.

[ArtoriusVonKrieg]

Needs a helluva lot of detail to be added, and I agree with Kreekakon, screenshots would be greatly appreciated and more videos. After all you keep saying that there are complete maps... may we see them?

[theone!]

Noooooo...... (evil smile) boomer gets an rpg, etrius gets a sword, Beecher a sniper, and Lloyd punch and kick.

Bad idea for me :) But it´s your choice, i would´ve sticked to their main weapons. Especilly boomer and lloyd.

[darkbeing]

Still not Satisfied.

you know what draunia05?
:engie:
you can suck it, because there are some people in to this mod who would play castle:source if it were in wireframe! so you can just can it and let me put the fixed video on youtube... im busy working on the Manipulator gun for the scientists right now, so im busy at the moment, dont expect a reply. :prrr:

[sleon]

its pretty good

[ide]

Looks pretty crappy.

[Draunia05]

show we something decent and in full detail, this just looks crap in my honest opinion.

[darkbeing]

show we something decent and in full detail, this just looks crap in my honest opinion.

you didnt see the 3rd video i posted? jeez... what're ya, stupid?

EDIT: nevermind, your as nice as this guy "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-6H4xOUrs"

[Draunia05]

As a matter of fact no i didn't, when i saw the first post i only saw one Video nothing else was posted.

Still needs more detail.

[darkbeing]

oh, like goin' through a whole list of codes to make fog you say more detail? oh and did you see the hitler thing?
im going to hell, arent i?

Stop right here or this thread will be locked and your ENTIRE project will be forced down. Do NOT keep this going or you will be facing even more infractions and if I'm in a bad mood a ban too.
thats better

[Draunia05]

All i'm saying is it just looks bland and tasteless, with a final product i'm hoping you had some textures to make it look like stone walls, dirt ground and wooden doors. give it some flavour.

[darkbeing]

is it me, or did i just get a virus scan around 50 seconds ago from this page?

EDIT: paper, as much as you despise this project, I'd appreciate it if you didnt do any admin things, as i think a virus tried to get from your cpu to mine... and id have to abort Castle:source, okey?
oh yeah, you dont mind if i changed the color right?

[Khorne47]

So your telling a Mod to stop being a Mod because your worried that you might get a virus (which is a load of crap, if your computer can get a virus from DQ then you should get a better anti-virus software)

I would have waited until you had something of quality to show us because this project is looking pretty bad at the moment.

[darkbeing]

Korne, as much as I like eating your people, your wrong, it could have been ANYTHING, because my lil sibling was playing club penguin and looking at dog photos, coulda been that, and you aren't getting it, you want me to show you stuff that doesn't exist yet? Because you wanting me to make HDR maps look better is impossible, the final beta(beta C1 16) the third video, is HDR... Can't get better than that on a valve game, so wait for me to actually make more stuff to show, THEN I'll quit ma yammering...

PS. There's this thing needed to get antivirus programs, it's called... Oh what is it... MONEY! And ya can't pull it out of your ass, mind you, I'm a teenager and money I don't have a lot of. Think before you speak, the rule all but me follow.

[Scuds]

so your saying that the third video you posted is the best the quality is going to get? Wow! thats kinda disappointing.

[Thecommander236]

Beauty is, this ain't a game, it's a hl2 sourcemod. He doesn't want any flash website games. But it's ok, people make that mistake alot :P

Sorry, I'm not a computer guy, though I want to learn. What is an hl2 sourcemod?

[darkbeing]

so your saying that the third video you posted is the best the quality is going to get? Wow! thats kinda disappointing.

Nah, that's as good as the quality will get on a small map like that, withbigger maps, HDR is kicked in more and more, making it better, but I might find a loophole, or I make the map frickin' huge and add cubemaps and a machine that cuts rocks for no reason...

EDIT: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Mod
here is what a mod is, look in the list of mods for ideas on what there about, mines not on there yet, as I have not enough progress for a trailer.

[Khorne47]

...How hard is it to spell my name? KHorne!
You can get free anti-virus software
And I meant you should have waited until you had some more/better stuff to show us. Because there isn't much information.

Nah, that's as good as the quality will get on a small map like that
...Wow...That looks bad...This project is looking worse everyday...

[Kreekakon]

Nah, that's as good as the quality will get on a small map like that, withbigger maps,.
Well there is still room for improvement. Like say you could improve the textures. That'll make the whole map feel a lot higher in quality.

EDIT:

oh, like goin' through a whole list of codes to make fog you say more detail?
Ironically, that WOULD give it higher detail.

[GolyBlood]

In the third video, I see only more objects and one impressive blood splatter.

Other than that it still looks the same pale thing.

[Paperback Writer]

DQ's favorite past time: Bash the Newb.

[theone!]

Keep it up darkbeing! The third video is awsome.

[Xiox]

Will you please stop bashing the poor guy! He has obviously put lots of work into this, I am pretty sure he is going to make it look better, and Darkbeing, don't take this the wrong way, but when they give you criticism.. take it, I had to learn that the hard way. Draunia is giving some good advice, even though he may be saying it a little harshly, I don't expect this to be even close to the finished job, and I do think that putting in texture and all that is a good idea, if you think that it will take even longer than you hoped, just let it take that long, making it look good is what will draw people to it, if you leave it as a grey mesh, not many people will want to play it (just saying). I do look forward to seeing what you come up with :) From what I've seen so far, it looks like you can do a lot with it and make it look awesome. One more thing, please don't argue or try to "order" Mods around, they are far more powerful than you and I here :P (speaking based from experience). Anyway, good luck with this project of yours! And maybe you should post videos with more progress made, make it a big difference between each video so you can show how much you've been working on it, in your next video or screenshot, lets see some texture getting in there :). I know I said one more thing a while ago, but also please try to stay on topic, I am NOT trying to backseat moderate at all, I just don't like to see people get in trouble because of little mistakes turning into big ones XD

[Kreekakon]

I agree with you Xiox, but...

...paragraphs please.

[Xiox]

lol sorry about that :P it was longer than I thought

[Bloody Shadow]

well I agree with some people..you need to add textures ( wood, stone like that).

And in my opinion you need to make the castle not jumpy style (like when you need to go to the stairs you need to jump) cause it looks alittle emm....strange (maybe add a brige, better than jumping).

And please add more detail on the castle please!!

But other than that you are improving on your work and congratz!!! But please do arrange those. :smilewinkgrin:

[theone!]

I agree with you to xiox.

[TheOnlyHorse]

here were the first two weapons i had made for C:S, smgauto(soldiergun) and Lloyds bladeHeadcrab :3
Manipulator gun for the scientists right now, so im busy at the moment, dont expect a reply. :prrr:I thought they were going to throw books at people xD No lol just kidding.

Good luck with the project.

[GolyBlood]

Manipulator gun which manipulates... what?


And in my opinion you need to make the castle not jumpy style (like when you need to go to the stairs you need to jump) cause it looks alittle emm....

Half-Life.

Fan art, because I'm always bored more or less: http://i42.tinypic.com/261cjlx.jpg

EDIT: Dangit, now I demand headcrabs.

[Rimmy]

I see improvement and I like it so keep it up

[XdbX]

Korne, as much as I like eating your people, your wrong, it could have been ANYTHING, because my lil sibling was playing club penguin and looking at dog photos, coulda been that, and you aren't getting it,

Then why the post that from i remember was completely off topic.


you want me to show you stuff that doesn't exist yet? Because you wanting me to make HDR maps look better is impossible, the final beta(beta C1 16) the third video, is HDR... Can't get better than that on a valve game, so wait for me to actually make more stuff to show, THEN I'll quit ma yammering...

Get off your damn power trip and think about what people are saying. Yes they could be telling you that your maps look like shit and thats your fault... But what their in fact saying is that your maps look like shit and they hope your not a complete noob at this and later on they will be better. Or i could be missreading them completely and they're going with the former.


PS. There's this thing needed to get antivirus programs, it's called... Oh what is it... MONEY! And ya can't pull it out of your ass, mind you, I'm a teenager and money I don't have a lot of. Think before you speak, the rule all but me follow.
Advance system care is highly rated by Cnet and they have a free version.
Download can be found at Download.cnet.com but im to lazy to find it.

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You are a shining light in a sea of annoyance.



But other than that you are improving on your work and congratz!!! But please do arrange those. :smilewinkgrin:

+1 in something\


I agree with you to xiox.

Asskisser

Headcrab :3I thought they were going to throw books at people xD No lol just kidding.

Good luck with the project.

I think your going to be able to MANipulate Etrius! :ihih: Hopefullly there will be a Boomer on Ray action also. Hell mix in mattbot and you got something stranger then belief!


EDIT: Dangit, now I demand headcrabs.
I guess he will have to make headcrab mode or something

[Rimmy]

wow now that's an aggressive post right there

[Netrosis]

This thread makes me vomit, violently.

[darkbeing]

Manipulator gun which manipulates... what?



Half-Life.

Fan art, because I'm always bored more or less: http://i42.tinypic.com/261cjlx.jpg

EDIT: Dangit, now I demand headcrabs.

It manipulates space around it, causing distortion in physical objects, and instant death to whoever gets touched by it, beta weapon for the scientists, oh and Net? Me too, but it was probably that burger from the new carls Jr.

[BanHammor]

Not so good.

[darkbeing]

Yeah, it's only a matter of time till spp or net can't take it anymore and go to extreme measures to get me to stfu... But other than that, I'm still taking source lessons, so my skill is improving, along with my ability to texture( :-3) I'm an advanced mapper for my age, but I still have room to improve, not much, but still room.

[GolyBlood]

instant death to whoever gets touched by it

1 shot 1 kill much? Or you go swing the gun in the face of Boomer and he dies by the magical touch?

I'd go swing it in Boomer's face.

[darkbeing]

Follow the text interpritation below

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gun. Beam. Target

THEIR FUCKED

[TheOnlyHorse]

It manipulates space around it, causing distortion in physical objects, and instant death to whoever gets touched by it, beta weapon for the scientists.Sounds like fun! But maybe it's a little overpowered, maybe make the reload slower and give the scientists a knife as secondary weapon?

btw, are you going to animate sticks and all that? Animating hair is hard..

[darkbeing]

Dude, the hard part will be boomers hair! I have to animate 700 possible motions for the hair, same with Romanov. But for the manipulator beam, it has a 5 second fire time and 50 second recharge.

[TheOnlyHorse]

Dude, the hard part will be boomers hair! I have to animate 700 possible motions for the hair, same with Romanov. But for the manipulator beam, it has a 5 second fire time and 50 second recharge.So this means all scientists have to go on a knife rampage? :think: : DDDDD

I'll love this game if you finish it someday.

[Blackwater]

Nice textures...

[Shadowtime23]

looks like sex. I'm looking forward to it.

[darkbeing]

Just saw iron man. He myself and netriosis display 1 similarity... Textbook narcisism... And scientists also have a plasma gun like the combine standard issue pulse rifle(ar2) and no it's fair, it's like regular bullets...

[GolyBlood]

And scientists also have a plasma gun like the combine standard issue pulse rifle(ar2)

Just bit more ammo than in the Half-Life 2, because it ran out insanely fast.

[darkbeing]

Right, the plasma gun has 104 bullet... Plasma... Energy... Things... What are they called? Cause I'm thinking and I'm drawing a blank.

[IronyWI]

How many types of weapons are there?

[darkbeing]

Over the total of the two armies? 65 weapons and 2 admin guns, plus some developer gun like in tf2...

[riku1gundam]

*sigh*

I'd look forward to this ,but judging form your reactions, you cant be titled a "n00b" but you also cant be titled a normal member.

I'd say, cocky, shitless, spineless, and compeltely irritating.

Go ahead, flame me. Dont give a fuck, its the internet.


Just show us the final product and impress us

[darkbeing]

Can't flame ya, freedom of press and speech... Can't flame you... But I'm a wannabe member, as my title says it, but I also prefer to be reffering to myself in the 4rth person. Chuck Norris...

[RustyMagnum]

OMG u must hav no ballz cuz u defend ur work against unwarranted criticism LOL n00b!

Seriously guys, could you think even a little?

I'm all for this. Don't let the jealous bastards get you down, i know how it can be like 'round here.

[Yurlyn]

Though it makes me iffy to see a game of Castle, I still think it can turn out great. Don't let yourself be brought down by flamers. Just don't flame others yourself and use the criticism. I'd be happy to help you (yes, still huge Castle fan) but I dun has Gmod and shizzle :(

[Lucky Joe]

I'm in for it... should be awesome.

Last single player HL2 Mod I played was MINERVA: Meta-stasis, this better be as good as that xD

[Mist Fang]

im up for this! looks awsome

[darkbeing]

Cool, I just made the npc for Evils and brutes... And a thing I made was the puppetmaster script. You see a cripple, bony body. The body floats up and arms shoot out and it starts charging toward you...

[riku1gundam]

Can't flame ya, freedom of press and speech... Can't flame you... But I'm a wannabe member, as my title says it, but I also prefer to be reffering to myself in the 4rth person. Chuck Norris...


hehe, I think I like you

Twas in a bad mood that day anyway

Msot of what I said still stands.

Chuck norris...hmm.

[Kreekakon]

Cool, I just made the npc for Evils and brutes... And a thing I made was the puppetmaster script. You see a cripple, bony body. The body floats up and arms shoot out and it starts charging toward you...
PICCCSSS!! Must have pics!

Oh and a video would do nicely too.

[IronyWI]

How difficult can it get to make a video or pic?

[GolyBlood]

Pics. Very easy. [Prt Scr]
Video. Easy too. Video Capturing Software. Like Fraps.

It can't get difficult than that except if you start doing something unnecessary.

[ide]

Video. Easy too. Video Capturing Software. Like Fraps.

xFire has free vid cap.

What kind of characters are you going to do? Full black stickman style? Or more like real life?

[Rimmy]

Cool, I just made the npc for Evils and brutes... And a thing I made was the puppetmaster script. You see a cripple, bony body. The body floats up and arms shoot out and it starts charging toward you...

sounds good, nice idea

[darkbeing]

Dude, working on the trailer is my top priority now, nothing can get in my way, INCLUDING pics.

[Kreekakon]

Dude, working on the trailer is my top priority now, nothing can get in my way, INCLUDING pics.
Even the small task of hitting a PrtScn button? Seriously it's even easier than logging onto DQ.

[TheOnlyHorse]

To be honest, darkbeing doesn't has to post a pic of every little thing he do. I'd rather see that trailer or more pictures in one post.

[GolyBlood]

It's easier than logging on to Windows.


xFire has free vid cap.

I do not like how it messes up the audio sync...

[Kreekakon]

To be honest, darkbeing doesn't has to post a pic of every little thing he do. I'd rather see that trailer or more pictures in one post.
Well that may be true, but seeing as there is a lack of pictures/screenshots I would think it suitable for him to take a picture of his work to reassure us a little. That way, he can continue on smoothly, and we'll have less skeptism about whether he's working or not.

[theone!]

To be honest, darkbeing doesn't has to post a pic of every little thing he do. I'd rather see that trailer or more pictures in one post.

I have to agree with you........

[ArtoriusVonKrieg]

I have almost completely lost hope in this project.

[theone!]

Uhmmm....why?

[ArtoriusVonKrieg]

Well the project has been going for a good few months now and all I've seen are three uninteresting video previews. All me and many other members have asked for is a couple of preview images or substantial videos, of completed, or near completion work. For example: he's often on about completed multiplayer levels/maps even weapons, just a screenshot would do but instead we just get more excuses, or the same lame: "I'll do it tomorrow."
After all some of the components he says he has been working on sound fantastic but we only have his word for it, for instance a manipulator gun sounds interesting eventhough he's still working on it, how about some concept art, for a project like this there has to be a little pre-planning, even if it is basic sketches and notes. As TheOnlyHorse pointed out Darkbeing shouldn't have to post pictures and previews of anything and everything he develops for the project, how about just a weekly or biweekly update, heck I'd even settle for regular monthly updates.

So until Darkbeing comes up with substantial proof of progress, I will be retaining my cynicism and skeptism.

[Netrosis]

I have almost completely lost hope in this project.

I never had hope for it in the first place, just putting it out there.


Uhmmm....why?

I know this wasn't directed at me, but I feel like answering it. I just need to put a disclaimer, my opinion is my own and is not affiliated to DQ or with Oscar.

In a nutshell, the Author is acting like a spoilt little brat. He can't handle criticism well, and it seems to be breaking out in lots of little fights in the threads. Secondly, in my opinion he's a bit up himself, and is demanding respect and only seems to want good comments to make himself feel good. Criticism doesn't work like that buddy.

Now, I associate Castle with a certain level of quality. It's what sets it apart from the bunch of other mundane stick figure movies. The author(s) of Castle: Source have to accept that they are catering to a fanbase, and part of that fanbase demand a certain level of quality. I can appreciate that this is being done in a 3D engine, but that doesn't automatically make it good.

Anyway for those of us who have posted criticism, well darkbeing seems to prefer to respond with personal attacks rather than addressing the criticism, a few of these I seem to be at the targeting end of, I'm not sure why. I guess he knows I see through his layer of bullshit and he doesn't like it.

Examples!:


Still not Satisfied.
Expressing Opinion, not being offensive


you know what draunia05?
:engie:
you can suck it, because there are some people in to this mod who would play castle:source if it were in wireframe! so you can just can it
Mature. Real Mature!


show we something decent and in full detail, this just looks crap in my honest opinion.
Expressing his concerned opinion again.


you didnt see the 3rd video i posted? jeez... what're ya, stupid?

EDIT: nevermind, your as nice as this guy "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-6H4xOUrs"
Calling him stupid, then comparing him to none other than Hitler.




Stop right here or this thread will be locked and your ENTIRE project will be forced down. Do NOT keep this going or you will be facing even more infractions and if I'm in a bad mood a ban too.


EDIT: paper, as much as you despise this project, I'd appreciate it if you didnt do any admin things, as i think a virus tried to get from your cpu to mine... and id have to abort Castle:source, okey?
Accuses a mod of doing "admin things", and says she tried to give him a virus on his "cpu".
I don't think I've ever seen a proper game developer that doesn't even know what to call their computer.



So far, all the work he's posted isn't so much as his own. It's mostly all part of the Steam engine, or some models he's edited. He attempts to drown the thread in technical Jargon to make it out like he's doing tons of work. People who don't understand the technical jargon seem to lap it up.

Stuff like this:

Dude, the hard part will be boomers hair! I have to animate 700 possible motions for the hair, same with Romanov. But for the manipulator beam, it has a 5 second fire time and 50 second recharge.

He's got time to animate 700 possible motions of Boomer's hair, and then Romanov's! But can't make textures lol.




so your saying that the third video you posted is the best the quality is going to get? Wow! thats kinda disappointing.

Nah, that's as good as the quality will get on a small map like that, withbigger maps, HDR is kicked in more and more, making it better, but I might find a loophole, or I make the map frickin' huge and add cubemaps and a machine that cuts rocks for no reason...

Yes the solution to shitty textures is MORE BLOOM!. HDR (High Dynamic Range) Lighting, aka That god awful brightening light, and his solution is to ADD MORE! It's ok you'll all be so blind you won't even see where you're going, so you won't need textures anyway! :drum:


In the previous thread I had pointed out the fact that for a mod to be decent, it needs to be organised, and at the moment there is poor organisation for this "sourcemod" (which makes it a game!).

Now that Darkbeing is undertaking this project, he's associating himself with Castle. As far as I'm concerned his behaviour and quality of work are both below what I personally find acceptable. I'm not particularly happy about this association, and so my purpose here is twofold. Stop the stupid shit going on in this thread, and to see if its possible to improve the quality of this mod. So far both attempts haven't produced any positive results and so I remain with a pessimistic outlook on the whole project.

Anyway, I think my post is long enough.

[darkbeing]

Yeah, and I hate my late laptop... It got a trojan from something and iiiii... Threw it at the wall, so I threw back progress by 5 hours. I blame my sister.

EDIT: net, of all people, YOU should know what a CPU is...

[Damian]

I'm not going to pass judgment on this until I've played it. Quick question, will I need HL2 to play this?

[darkbeing]

Nah, a... *cough* freind at valve is going to put it as a free game in the store. Let's just say he is a freind with Garry... Yes, THE Garry who made Gmod. We might be able to have it with an update system if all pulls through and people cooperate. Before you ask, my dad knows people... Guys in EA and Valve. ;)

[Frank]

Nah, a... *cough* freind at valve is going to put it as a free game in the store. Let's just say he is a freind with Garry... Yes, THE Garry who made Gmod. We might be able to have it with an update system if all pulls through and people cooperate. Before you ask, my dad knows people... Guys in EA and Valve. ;)

Awesome, that's just awesome.

[darkbeing]

Yeah, I know... I'm awesome. Just admit it. And NO it's not illegal. If I were selling it on valve store I'd get 10 % Oscar would get 70% and the store would get 20%... But I'm not


EDIT: net, now it's not just author... Over 26 people have given work to make this mod, not just me, castlefan1, ace o' spades, theone!, and icy poison(I think) okey? And people are sending stuff IN to me so it can get implimented, plus my old man is chipping in with 3d models(10 years ago he was a 3d modeling god) so eat that. Plus I'm getting help from 3 guys, two from valve and one from EA. :P

[Shadowtime23]

Yeah, I know... I'm awesome. Just admit it. And NO it's not illegal. If I were selling it on valve store I'd get 10 % Oscar would get 70% and the store would get 20%... But I'm not


EDIT: net, now it's not just author... Over 26 people have given work to make this mod, not just me, castlefan1, ace o' spades, theone!, and icy poison(I think) okey? And people are sending stuff IN to me so it can get implimented, plus my old man is chipping in with 3d models(10 years ago he was a 3d modeling god) so eat that. Plus I'm getting help from 3 guys, two from valve and one from EA. :P
You simply rock.
Damn I want this!

[Netrosis]

EDIT: net, of all people, YOU should know what a CPU is...

http://musicianstools.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/core2extreme_quad_cpu.jpg

Central Processing Unit.

CPU's don't "get viruses".


Once again though, you're running around tooting your own horn. "People other than me are contributing to the project" (and so it MUST BE GOOD!).

"I know people, my Dad knows people, it's going to be in the Steam store!" (so it must be good!)

"I'm spending so much time on this!!!" (therefore it must be good!)


I'm not sure if you're so blinded by your own work that you think it's so incredibly awesome that nobody can find it bad. Or whether you just can't come to terms with the fact that people don't like you and/or your work.

The sooner you realise this, the better.

[Wadling]

1. Start project
2. Hire inexperienced team members, but lots of them
3. Make grandiose claims
4. ?????
5. PROFIT!

[RustyMagnum]

I'm not sure if you're so blinded by your own work that you think it's so incredibly awesome that nobody can find it bad. Or whether you just can't come to terms with the fact that people don't like you and/or your work.

...Or then it's the DQ syndrome.

[Rimmy]

is this the official flame thread?
I thought I clicked on the thread named Castle:source but I must be wrong

[ide]

is this the official flame thread?
Haven't seen any actual "flame posts"...
...except the few ones from darkbeing ofc.

[Rimmy]

Haven't seen any actual "flame posts"...
...except the few ones from darkbeing ofc.

okay maybe the word flaming was a bit exaggerated.

But this thread is mainly about people on two sides arguing with each other, because the one side believes this mod won't work/isn't even being mad/worth making and the other side being angered by that (which I can understand) argues back and everything ends in both sides insulting each other.
I mean why is it so hard to wait until it's finished or progressed? Always wanting proof everyday will just cause this whole project to go down while trying to make what other people want to see.

[Kreekakon]

I mean why is it so hard to wait until it's finished or progressed? Always wanting proof everyday will just cause this whole project to go down while trying to make what other people want to see.

Normally this is correct. But, in this case, there is extreme skeptism whether this guy can live up to his name or not, based both on attitude and way of approach with certain things.

Take Oscar for example. We never really push him or accuse him of not working, because we know and trust that he will. For darkbeing to get the same respect, he's going to have to earn it and prove his worth.

[Wadling]

okay maybe the word flaming was a bit exaggerated.

But this thread is mainly about people on two sides arguing with each other, because the one side believes this mod won't work/isn't even being mad/worth making and the other side being angered by that (which I can understand) argues back and everything ends in both sides insulting each other.
I mean why is it so hard to wait until it's finished or progressed? Always wanting proof everyday will just cause this whole project to go down while trying to make what other people want to see.

Actually it's more like he keeps insisting he's done so much work but refuses to show us anything substantial. If he wasn't saying "I'll post something up tomorrow" every week without doing so, we wouldn't be so skeptical.

[darkbeing]

Right! And all I want to do is make the fucking mods trailer! And WHY don't you think the mod will work? That's mainly toward net and draunic05, and what the hell is up with you when it comes to me and my thread Draunic?according to one of your freinds you've been like that since I posted my thread a castle game.

EDIT: this is talking bout rimmys post, ok?

[Wadling]

Yeah, Draunic, what the hell man?

[Kreekakon]

Right! And all I want to do is make the fucking mods trailer! And WHY don't you think the mod will work? That's mainly toward net and draunic05, and what the hell is up with you when it comes to me and my thread Draunic?according to one of your freinds you've been like that since I posted my thread a castle game.

You haven't been listening to what anyone's been really saying have you? Draunia has good reason for his skeptism because you haven't really been able to show anything worthwhile at all to be honest.

Also, you could resolve all of this easily if you would just show us some sort of proof of your more recent work from time to time. And frankly, it's been a long time already

[RustyMagnum]

Draunia has good reason for his skeptism because you haven't really been able to show anything worthwhile at all to be honest.

Dale goes envy towards anyone who's actually able to make anything.

[theone!]

Dale goes envy towards anyone who's actually able to make anything.

Ye,i agree. Darkbeing will atleast finnish his projekt. Dale didn´t.

[Terazokie]

I have an idea, instead of wasting your time by arguing with everybody who says anything you don't like, Darkbeing, you could sit down, ignore these people, and get your trailer done. It will put an end to these accusations, and you can rub it in the faces of everyone who is against the project.

[Thecommander236]

Besides, I'd like to see ALL these other guys trailers. Why don't you make your own forum and post it? :hand:

[darkbeing]

Gooood idea, both of you. I'll use the first guys idea...

[Kreekakon]

Dale goes envy towards anyone who's actually able to make anything.
That's sort of an unfair comment towards Dale, seeing as he's in an awkward postition. Though he hasn't been able to actually complete any projects yet, it doesn't take away his right to be skeptical. It just might lead to misunderstanding that he's being "envious" because in reality he hasn't really completed anything.

I have an idea, instead of wasting your time by arguing with everybody who says anything you don't like, Darkbeing, you could sit down, ignore these people, and get your trailer done. It will put an end to these accusations, and you can rub it in the faces of everyone who is against the project.
He wouldn't HAVE to put up with these accusations in the first place to start with. If he would respond to our comments and criticism modestly and maturely, even if he didn't have much to show, a bit like right now, we wouldn't accuse him of not working as much. That's because if we saw he had good chracter, we'd more likely believe that he would finish the project.

And if he goes on like this and completes the trailer to "rub in our faces", he still wouldn't have a very good relationship with all of us.

So darkbeing, for yet another time and as many have said, you have to change your attitude or else no matter what great things you display to us, you aren't going to get any respect out of it.

[darkbeing]

Ok, let's try. I'm going to buy a website and post castle source stuff on it. Happy now?

[Kreekakon]

Ok, let's try. I'm going to buy a website and post castle source stuff on it. Happy now?
I don't really see how that's going to solve anything.

[darkbeing]

I don't either. It just seemed like a good idea at the time. But it'll open stuff for castle and this little manga I'm writing.

[Rimmy]

I don't really see how that's going to solve anything.

I don't really see how any post on the last 2 pages is going to solve anything.

Why doesn't anyone have enough patience to wait for darkbeing to post something? Instead everyone just puts pressure on him. Just stay quiet until he posts his progression or else this won't go anywhere.

[Kreekakon]

Why doesn't anyone have enough patience to wait for darkbeing to post something? Instead everyone just puts pressure on him. Just stay quiet until he posts his progression or else this won't go anywhere.

It's just as Wadling says:

Actually it's more like he keeps insisting he's done so much work but refuses to show us anything substantial. If he wasn't saying "I'll post something up tomorrow" every week without doing so, we wouldn't be so skeptical.

[Netrosis]

Ok, let's try. I'm going to buy a website and post castle source stuff on it. Happy now?

http://www.moddb.com/

I said this in the other thread. Sign up there, create a new mod.
It's a good website, and it's purpose is there to HELP you organise your mod, AND present structure to your audience.

Like I also said earlier, WANTING to create a good mod, and WANTING to do it well are not enough to make it good.
Talking about doing it is only going to gain you blind interest, and so far, this mod is still at the "blind interest" stage.

Anyone capable of reading instructions and with enough spare time could easily get to the stage you're at now. Follow a few tutorials on how to make your own weapons, use your own models, create a mod and jump into Hammer/SDK and generate your own map.
This is the point I'm trying to make, it doesn't make it good.

At the moment the mod is so completely disorganised. I'm yet to see a coherent list of intended features, game modes, levels and any specialities.


There's also the huge glaring issue here, you're making two games. A Single Player Campaign, and a Multiplayer Mode. As far as I'm concerned, the multiplayer mode is a wasted cause at this point. It's a needless extremity, and I'm sure you think it sounds awesome but in reality you're just biting off way more than you can chew.

Singleplayer is, for all intents and purposes, relatively easy to test, you have controlled scenarios, you can hint to the users, and you can focus on AI events. People can just download the mod and jump in and play.

Multiplayer, you have to go and generate a whole new UI for the enemy team. You have to configure a server to run your game mode, and you have to balance the gameplay around actions that you probably didn't expect from users.

But it's more about the user side of things. How many people are going to be into this mod enough that they are going to install a server and then play with configuration and testing enough so that they can get other people connecting to their server. Then you have the issue of available players, we barely have enough users online on this website at a time as it is. A whole ton of those don't even have computers capable of running the game, and/or are at school or work and can't play. Then you have the issue of when people want to play, and then the other issue of lag, dropouts and the other multitude of problems that come with running a game server. The person hosting usually has to use a separate computer, especially if they're using dedicated hosting.

I know it was pain in the butt trying to get my TF2 dedicated server up and running, and that's with wiki's of data dedicated to getting the server up and running.

So. Back to single player.

3D Stick Figures look stupid. I'm just going to put it out there. Face it, in between the lack of proper facial expressions, the "all black" skin style just isn't suited to 3D modelling.

anyway, gtg actually I'll finish this post later.

tl;dr - No multiplayer, get organised.

[...I'm not telling you!]

*strokes chin*
Well...from the short clips I've seen, the gameplay looks simplistic enough for it to be fun for me. But, and I know it's been brought to your atention, my only concern I'd really like to bring forward are the graphics. Particuarily on detail, and the hands. Also, multiplayer? I hope you can pull that off. I'd love to be able to grief-play the general.
-Person playing as Etrius- ''Hey, I'm way better at this than you so Shut u-''
-person playing as general- *shoots etrius* ''no you don't.''

[Bloody Shadow]

hey guys lets just respect each other. He said he is gonna make a mod, and so he will. darkbeing you have to take critisms cause with there help you can make the mod even better. But come one almost half of this thread is all fighting and arguements..........just respect each other guys =]..........

~Bloody Shadow leaves his first peace keeping message :-3

[Mattbot]

Dale goes envy towards anyone who's actually able to make anything.

Say, aren't you that guy who keeps repeatedly starting new stories and giving up after like 2 chapters?

[darkbeing]

Ok, for all the people who have to get anything off their chests, this thread is open to compliments, ideas, AND hatemail, so go ahead, I actually said that in A Castle Game, so feel free to rip or anythin' else.

[Terazokie]

I thought you said you were going to use my idea/advice, it would appear I was mistaken though.

[darkbeing]

No, I'm using your idea/advise man, but even net would agree that I said me and the team would stand hatemail, Ill just ignore it ;)...